OpenMandriva Beta 3

[Doug Laidlaw]

Beta 3 is out.

I notice from the blog that they now have a build farm.

Doug.
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[Doug Laidlaw]

Post by Doug Laidlaw
Beta 3 is out.
I notice from the blog that they now have a build farm.
Doug.
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Sorry, too late at night. That should be Release 3, beta 2.
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[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Doug Laidlaw

Post by Doug Laidlaw
Beta 3 is out.
I notice from the blog that they now have a build farm.
Doug.
--

Sorry, too late at night. That should be Release 3, beta 2.

Yes I notice the late night effect myself all too often,
But Open Mandriva will have to bring out a release candidate
before I will bother to download it, The earlier version would
not boot on my computer(s). I would rather be concerned with
the PCLinuxOS rolling release and the Mageia 6 which might be
coming out by fall.

bliss

bliss

[Doug Laidlaw_1]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Doug Laidlaw

Post by Doug Laidlaw
Beta 3 is out.
I notice from the blog that they now have a build farm.
Doug.
--

Sorry, too late at night. That should be Release 3, beta 2.

Yes I notice the late night effect myself all too often,
But Open Mandriva will have to bring out a release candidate
before I will bother to download it, The earlier version would
not boot on my computer(s). I would rather be concerned with
the PCLinuxOS rolling release and the Mageia 6 which might be
coming out by fall.
bliss

I would be interested in hearing how you find a rolling release. One
comparison said that the major distros avoid them because it is too big a
task for the developers. OpenSuSE is offering one, in the alternative.

My experience with the first two releases of OpenMandriva mirrors yours.
Every installation had a problem, which wasn't the same problem as on the
previous try. According to their blog, they have switched from GNU make to
a thing called "clang." I have never heard of it. Cmake is good for cross-
platform, but has no uninstaller. MuseScore releases in a "portable" package
called AppImage, which runs from my home directory.

Doug.

[Ikke]

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Post by Doug Laidlaw_1

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Yes I notice the late night effect myself all too often,
But Open Mandriva will have to bring out a release candidate
before I will bother to download it, The earlier version would
not boot on my computer(s). I would rather be concerned with
the PCLinuxOS rolling release and the Mageia 6 which might be
coming out by fall.
bliss

I would be interested in hearing how you find a rolling release. One
comparison said that the major distros avoid them because it is too big a
task for the developers. OpenSuSE is offering one, in the alternative.

...snip....

Just my 2c on the PCLinuxOS rolling release:
I have weened some friends off Win to Mageia since a number of years. Last
year I have been running PCLinux OS on my laptop to find out how the rolling
release worked. The concept was appealing to me, as it would avoid me to run
around every 18 months-2 years to install the next supported release when
theirs is not supported anymore.
I for myself had no problems in running PCLinux OS. But some of my friends
are very bad at using computers and learning new tricks is a problem. So I
came to the conclusion that the way getting updates from the repos is far
too complex for those people (it involves some 6 steps to get the process
running). I gave finally up on it.

Herman Viaene

[Bobbie Sellers]

....snip...

Post by Doug Laidlaw_1

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Yes I notice the late night effect myself all too often,
But Open Mandriva will have to bring out a release candidate
before I will bother to download it, The earlier version would
not boot on my computer(s). I would rather be concerned with
the PCLinuxOS rolling release and the Mageia 6 which might be
coming out by fall.
bliss

I would be interested in hearing how you find a rolling release. One
comparison said that the major distros avoid them because it is too big a
task for the developers. OpenSuSE is offering one, in the alternative.

....snip....
I have weened some friends off Win to Mageia since a number of years. Last
year I have been running PCLinux OS on my laptop to find out how the rolling
release worked. The concept was appealing to me, as it would avoid me to run
around every 18 months-2 years to install the next supported release when
theirs is not supported anymore.
I for myself had no problems in running PCLinux OS. But some of my friends
are very bad at using computers and learning new tricks is a problem. So I
came to the conclusion that the way getting updates from the repos is far
too complex for those people (it involves some 6 steps to get the process
running). I gave finally up on it.
Herman Viaene

Well with a single page of printed out instructions I managed to get
one other naive user to keep PCLOS running. I also gave him a couple
of hours of practical instruction on the use of the update facility
using the file manager and what various tools did. I remind the
user to do updates whenever I am sure they are functional but since
he is elderly (not as elderly as myself) I will come by and help
him out if an update goes badly. He was used to using MacOS and
Windows.

The possibility of a bad update coming through seems less now
than when I was using PC-LOS on Compaq notebook a couple of years back.
But I am thinking about creating a backup to the most important
partitions on my setup so that I would only have to switch to that
backup after a bad update.

Now I am going to review the instructions I originally
gave him and see if they need replacement with more general or
precise terms. Anyone interested in seeing the result?

bliss

[Ikke]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

....snip...

Post by Doug Laidlaw_1

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Yes I notice the late night effect myself all too often,
But Open Mandriva will have to bring out a release candidate
before I will bother to download it, The earlier version would
not boot on my computer(s). I would rather be concerned with
the PCLinuxOS rolling release and the Mageia 6 which might be
coming out by fall.
bliss

I would be interested in hearing how you find a rolling release. One
comparison said that the major distros avoid them because it is too big a
task for the developers. OpenSuSE is offering one, in the alternative.

....snip....
I have weened some friends off Win to Mageia since a number of years.
Last year I have been running PCLinux OS on my laptop to find out how the
rolling release worked. The concept was appealing to me, as it would
avoid me to run around every 18 months-2 years to install the next
supported release when theirs is not supported anymore.
I for myself had no problems in running PCLinux OS. But some of my
friends are very bad at using computers and learning new tricks is a
problem. So I came to the conclusion that the way getting updates from
the repos is far too complex for those people (it involves some 6 steps
to get the process running). I gave finally up on it.
Herman Viaene

Well with a single page of printed out instructions I managed to get
one other naive user to keep PCLOS running. I also gave him a couple
of hours of practical instruction on the use of the update facility
using the file manager and what various tools did. I remind the
user to do updates whenever I am sure they are functional but since
he is elderly (not as elderly as myself) I will come by and help
him out if an update goes badly. He was used to using MacOS and
Windows.
The possibility of a bad update coming through seems less now
than when I was using PC-LOS on Compaq notebook a couple of years back.
But I am thinking about creating a backup to the most important
partitions on my setup so that I would only have to switch to that
backup after a bad update.
Now I am going to review the instructions I originally
gave him and see if they need replacement with more general or
precise terms. Anyone interested in seeing the result?
bliss

Yes please

Herman

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Ikke

Post by Bobbie Sellers

....snip...

Post by Doug Laidlaw_1

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Yes I notice the late night effect myself all too often,
But Open Mandriva will have to bring out a release candidate
before I will bother to download it, The earlier version would
not boot on my computer(s). I would rather be concerned with
the PCLinuxOS rolling release and the Mageia 6 which might be
coming out by fall.
bliss

I would be interested in hearing how you find a rolling release. One
comparison said that the major distros avoid them because it is too big a
task for the developers. OpenSuSE is offering one, in the alternative.

....snip....
I have weened some friends off Win to Mageia since a number of years.
Last year I have been running PCLinux OS on my laptop to find out how the
rolling release worked. The concept was appealing to me, as it would
avoid me to run around every 18 months-2 years to install the next
supported release when theirs is not supported anymore.
I for myself had no problems in running PCLinux OS. But some of my
friends are very bad at using computers and learning new tricks is a
problem. So I came to the conclusion that the way getting updates from
the repos is far too complex for those people (it involves some 6 steps
to get the process running). I gave finally up on it.
Herman Viaene

Well with a single page of printed out instructions I managed to get
one other naive user to keep PCLOS running. I also gave him a couple
of hours of practical instruction on the use of the update facility
using the file manager and what various tools did. I remind the
user to do updates whenever I am sure they are functional but since
he is elderly (not as elderly as myself) I will come by and help
him out if an update goes badly. He was used to using MacOS and
Windows.
The possibility of a bad update coming through seems less now
than when I was using PC-LOS on Compaq notebook a couple of years back.
But I am thinking about creating a backup to the most important
partitions on my setup so that I would only have to switch to that
backup after a bad update.
Now I am going to review the instructions I originally
gave him and see if they need replacement with more general or
precise terms. Anyone interested in seeing the result?
bliss

Yes please
Herman

Might have it out next week.
I rewrote the paragraphs on Synaptic from memory and will have
to check it against the procedure as carried out in digital
reality then convert it to text from .odt

bliss

[Doug Laidlaw]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Ikke

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Now I am going to review the instructions I originally
gave him and see if they need replacement with more general or
precise terms. Anyone interested in seeing the result?
bliss

Yes please
Herman

Might have it out next week.
I rewrote the paragraphs on Synaptic from memory and will have
to check it against the procedure as carried out in digital
reality then convert it to text from .odt
bliss

I am "settling in" with opensuse at present, as a second distro,
but Mageia will probably remain my default system.
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[Bobbie Sellers]

Hi readers and writers,
I broke my rule about dealing with pre-release version of
the OpenMandriva and downloaded and installed OpenMandriva 3.0 beta,
wrote it to a disk and booted it up and here is what I found.

OpenMandriva beta with KDE 5

[***@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 4.6.2-desktop-2omv #1
SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 21 13:34:59
UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[***@localhost ~]$

Boots very slowly from DVD in Live Mode.

KWrite Version 16.04.2 is being used.

Menu can be switched between classic menu, default program
launcher and an Application iconic menu window.

Firefox 47.0

Kate Version 16.04.2 still does not have
the valuable plugins such as insert file.

LibreOffice5 Version: 5.1.3.2

Somewhat kalieoschopic background
Task bar/panel on the bottom,
It is called OpenMandriva panel and you
can open it at the bottom or add a default
panel or an empty panel as well. The
default panel can be anywhere on sides or
top of the display. No choice but folder
view and desktop for configuration. Icon
to Install OM, Join OpenMandriva, Welcome
and Donate are shown on startup.

KDE's Plasma 5.6.5 has a default slide
animation to switch between desktops. This can be
turned off easily but the page icons cannot be
given numbers

Graphics include the usual stuff plus Krita an excellent
paint program which I usually have to download.

I called up the OpenMandriva LX Control Center which is a
Mandriva holdover which in the past OpenMandriva has
somewhat devalued. Seems to be back in full.
Checking Hardware section I was informed that it needed
laptop mode software. In Local Disk management all
drives and partitions were show.

If not for the KDE's Plasma 5 and its shortcomings
this would be a very nice and pratical distribution.

This is very close to a usable work machine.
I will be sticking with PCLinux OS 2016.3 for the
time being because I find the copy-able Digital Clock
very handy and prefer to set my desktop to Newspaper
Layout

KDE will be establishing a LTS version for
KDE's Plasma 5 in Plasma 5.8 but that won't be out
until mid-Autumn.

bliss